Tuesday, November 4, 2014

Today's the Day for Initiative 594

The Guardian

Washington state voters appear ready to go where their politicians fear to tread and impose greater gun controls in the face of a well-funded campaign by the National Rifle Association and a rival spoiler measure on Tuesday’s ballot.
Opinion polls suggest a clear majority in favour of requiring background checks on all firearms sales in Washington state including at gun shows and through private advertising. The campaign for the only major piece of gun control legislation on the ballot in the US this year, Initiative 594, was launched in the wake of the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting on the other side of the country two years ago, in which 20 children and six adults were murdered. But the campaign drew to a close with a school killing in Washington itself in which five students were shot in the Marysville school north of Seattle last month.
Last chance to make a prediction.

26 comments:

  1. If it fails I'm sure the gun loons hear will say it proves the whole country feels the same way.
    It will pass.

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    1. Of course if it passes, you will jump on the idea that it proves whole country feels the same way.

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    2. Of course I was correct.
      Your ridiculous reversal of my statement is stupid. I never claimed any one election proves the whole country believed the same, but SS says it all the time along with the rest of you gun loons. Wrong again, no surprise and no surprise you lied again.

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    3. Me lie? Hah, hardly. You were the one all twisted out of shape about the minority of the population voting in Colorado thus representing the majority. This election cycle was no different. The minority of the population still voted. I still accept the results. So my reversal of your statement wasn't stupid, it was anticipated.

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    4. Yes, because you idiots continue to claim a minority vote victory means a majority of Americans agree with your stance. A dishonest stance and an outright lie. No surprise you have proven yourself to be a liar constantly just like SS, You lied again, have I claimed the whole country believes a certain way because of one vote? NO, and I'm waiting for you to prove it liar.

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    5. How do you prove the un-provable. You can only assume just like I do. You can say the non voters agree with you, which would be a lie because you cant prove it. Or I can say all the non voters agreed with me, which would also be a lie because I cant prove it. But what IS proven is the few still speaks for the majority and there isn't ONE DAMN THING YOU OR I CAN DO ABOUT!! The only thing anyone can do, and should do, is to encourage more people to vote, and explain if they don't then they are letting the few represent the many. That's how it works, that's how it always has worked. Its how it will work in the future if you, or I, cant convince them otherwise.

      So keep calling me a liar, I don't care. There isn't anything that I posted above that was a lie. You are just too hot under the collar about the few representing the many. And like I said above, I WILL STLL ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF WHICH EVER THE WAY THE VOTE ENDS! So, no I DID NOT LIE! And I did not call you any names either, you are the one that revels in that activity, showing off your intelligence.

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    6. You are really stupid.
      I'm not claiming anything like that, but thanks for another lie about me. .
      I'm only claiming that you cannot claim the whole country agrees when only 1/3rd of the country voted. Which you lying loons do all the time.

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    7. Your the one that STILL lacks reading comprehension. Point out anywhere in my statement that I have made such a claim.
      I have pointed out that neither one of us can make such a claim.
      I have pointed out that the opinions of those that DID NOT vote have no voice in the matter.
      They HAD the chance to have that voice and passed it up for what ever reason. So all that counts are the ones that DID vote, the rest are irrelevant by their own inaction.
      And I will remind you again, I don't CLAIM that they have agreed with ME OR YOU.
      So go ahead and LIE about what I said again. You continue to LIE about ME. Go ahead and point it out, liar, that I made any such claim.

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    8. You have been caught lying so many times I quit counting and quit feeling I have to prove it. Your words are in the archive for all to read.

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    9. So in other words, you can't. You continue to accuse others of what you are so guilty of. You or anyone else has ever caught me in any kind of lie. You are nothing but an insignificant little troll. And that makes you a dangerous killer of innocent people. Try not to kill anybody today, troll.

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    10. My accusations of you being a liar are backed by proof (see archives) yours are just your typical lying rants of a gun loon. What else you got got liar?

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    11. Then prove it you lying little troll.

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    12. Already have, time and time again. So has Mike. By liar.

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    13. You have yet to prove anything at all, at anytime, except that you dodge and lie, you worthless little yellow belly lying troll.
      Thanks for proving my point!

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    14. No surprise you are so stupid you don't remember what you said. Lucky we have your words in print on this site so we can righteously call you a liar.

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    15. Again, thanks for proving my point. If you have my words in print, produce them or forever remain the liar that proves my point.

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    16. Your words are there for all to read GC. Not playing your game. By.

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    17. More lies from you, you can't produce any text that shows any lie from me and I am not GC. Your the one playing games liar. Again, thanks for proving my point.

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    18. Anonymous October 31, 2014 at 5:27 PM

      I did, didn't I. My bad. My bad for making not making it more clear. I should have said it this way;

      And along with the Constitution are the founders writings about government treason the peoples right to throw off such a government and create a new one if needed.

      All the founders wrote their opinions and reasoning for the wording of the Constitution and were kept for the judging of it. Explanations, if you will for the laws set fourth.

      Anonymous November 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

      Gee, a gun loon caught lying, what a surprise.


      Just one of many GC.

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    19. Still, I am not GC. Still again you have yet to show ANY lie from me. What you have quoted is absolute fact. Try again.

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  2. It will pass, but by a slimmer margin that the opinion polls say. There are just too many low information voters susceptible to the lie campaign about what it does. This is why criminal code should not be put to a vote.

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    1. 60% is a clear majority.

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    2. "The lie campaign?" Oh, brother.

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    3. Why don't they talk about the new crimes proposed? Why do they only mention the sales angle?

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    4. It's a restrictive gun law. You don't like it. Fine. The law-abiding gun owners will have a choice to obey the law or risk being charged with a crime - same as it ever was.

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    5. Or change it when they find out the whole truth about it.

      "We have to pass it to know what is in it.", quoted from one of your favorite people Mike.

      Its not unheard of, you know, for people to reject an unlawful or unenforceable law and send it back to the law makers to be redone, reconsidered or thrown out. Its done thru the courts by challengers. Also, the same as it ever was.

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